Kindergeld?

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Kindergeld?

Post by fartfile » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:13 am

Hi, I know Austria will subsidize childcare costs which is done by getting a number issued and giving it to the school, but was there also a separate "Kindergeld" allowance that is paid out?

Am I confusing the term? is the childcare subsidy the Kindergeld? Or is there something additional?

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Re: Kindergeld?

Post by Tatt » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:55 am

There are three things in this regard;
i, childcare subsidy - as you said you get the number and give it to the kindergarten. this is only for Vienna, not Austria as a whole because it's a federal subsidy

ii, kindergeld (or familienbeihilfe), this is approximately €175 per calendar month paid to the parents or guardians of each child from birth to 16th birthday, and is dependent on having the pregnancy registered, the required medical checks and a filled out 'kinderpass' from an Austrian gynecologist.
- If you were pregnant or gave birth before moving to Austria you can still claim this money as long as you have proof of standard foreign prenatal tests, in place of the Austrian ones
- It is paid by the Finanzamt http://www.bmwfj.gv.at

iii, muttergeld, or karenzgeld, is paid directly to the mother from birth for between 12 and 24 months, depending on the package decided. It is worth between €800 and €2.000 per calendar month (depending on what you earned before the birth) and is available to anyone who has worked in the last three years in the EU.
- It is paid also by the Finanzamt

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Re: Kindergeld?

Post by fartfile » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:22 am

Ah thanks Tatt, I think the familienbeihilfe is what I was referring too, thanks!

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Re: Kindergeld?

Post by thierry » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:00 pm

Tatt,
Would you know if this Kindergeld is also given to families with one parents working in the UN?

And about the muttergeld (which we did not ask), is it also for non-Austrian?
We always thought that we cannot get anything from the Finanzamt, because non-Austrian.

(Kind of same as the subsidy for the German A1 class?
It was denied to us, because from the UN. Like "you are rich, you don't need subsidy".... which is not always true. And my wife was looking for a local job and wanted to get better level in German.)

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Re: Kindergeld?

Post by Tatt » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:19 am

Hey,

As far as I know the kindergeld (famielienbeihilfe) is available to any parent of a registered child in Austria, if your missus is not eligible because she does not contribute to Austrian social insurance then claim it through you - as the father.

The per-requisits are that you have the "mutter kind pass" from an Austrian gynochologist or equivalent documentation from another country, and that you are the registered guardian of the child (if you're not married this is likely to be only the mother, so you have to do one extra documentation at the local government office to register the little pop as yours.

If you need some better advice, make an appointment at the Expat Center - this is what they do :-)
http://expat-center.at/

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Re: Kindergeld?

Post by thierry » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:10 pm

Thanks Tatt. I will check.
My wife is working locally, paying her social insurance and other social tax.
All the pregnancy and birth was in Vienna, with the Muterr Kind Pass.

I have never heard about this Expat Center. Seems great. I will send them an email, or directly go there.

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Re: Kindergeld?

Post by Hibou_Hibou22 » Tue May 12, 2015 12:03 pm

Hello All,

I may possibly be moving to Vienna from Paris in early July. My wife and child (1yr old) would probably move full-time in Aug/September.
We will be looking for a day nursery place from Sept. I imagine that public places will be taken so that leaves us with private facilities.
Thank you to Tatt for outlining the differences between childcare subsidy, kindergeld and muttergeld.

Is muttergeld only for people who have paid into the Austrian system for a period of time? It seems odd that EU citizens could claim this on arrival?

Where can I find out more about entitlements as only I will be working initially until my wife finds a job, which will place a financial strain on us. I have found this link that expains more about childcare allowance.
https://www.help.gv.at/Portal.Node/hlpd ... _allowance

Also the link to the vienna expat centre doesn't work and when I googles it I got this http://www.viennabusinessagency.at/ which seems dedicated to helping business start-ups.
Any advice would be most appreciated

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Re: Kindergeld?

Post by Luvbeers » Tue May 12, 2015 3:48 pm

You can try our nursery (kindergruppen) http://www.kiga-sonnenstrahl.at if you end up in our neighborhood (15th). It is private but subsidised by the city. Our kids love it.
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Re: Kindergeld?

Post by Tatt » Thu May 14, 2015 6:31 pm

Hibou_Hibou22 wrote:Hello All,
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Is muttergeld only for people who have paid into the Austrian system for a period of time? It seems odd that EU citizens could claim this on arrival?
Thanks to the European Union, all EU citizens are eligible to the same benefits in each member state the same as the local population. The thing which seems to get the Daily Mail so annoyed in the UK means your family is eligible for Austrian state and family benefits as soon as you arrive because you are already entitled to them in France where you currently work.

It is not quite that simple - when you register you will have to transfer your social benefits from the French system to the Austrian one (to make sure you do not claim benefits from both at the same time - that is not allowed), and then you can claim them here. It means one extra form to fill in.
Welcome to a unified entitlement system :-)
Hibou_Hibou22 wrote:Where can I find out more about entitlements...
"Living and Working in Austria", from the employment insurance service. You only have to read the relevant sections.
http://www.ams.at/_docs/eurespubl_en.pdf

Expat Center "Expat Guide", again a long read so pick the useful sections.
https://viennabusinessagency.at/fileadm ... 14_www.pdf
Hibou_Hibou22 wrote:Also the link to the vienna expat centre doesn't work and when I googles it I got this http://www.viennabusinessagency.at/ which seems dedicated to helping business start-ups.
Any advice would be most appreciated
The Expat Center was always a part of the Vienna Business Agency, a service dedicated to supporting foreign businesses start up in Austria, and they have recently 'rebranded' as part of their parent service.
But it is still the same team within the same office, and they can help you through key issues in some cases just because they have the direct phone numbers to the bureaucrats who are responsible.

Here is their new English website, I recommend joining the club - as well as coming along to our social events once you arrive!
https://viennabusinessagency.at/interna ... in-vienna/

Best of luck! I think after Paris you will find Vienna a much nicer climate, very much safer, more organised, cleaner and MUCH cheaper for your family :-)

hmm, the food is probably not as good though...

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Re: Kindergeld?

Post by Celineoo » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:06 pm

Hello i need help. Im a german 18 year old currently living in iran but i was born in germany and am a citizen there. Ive been having trouble with my school here and want to move to austria, vienna to finish my last school year. And im moving alone. I wanted to see if i would be getting any kindergeld at all whatsoever? Please help

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